Health Care Reform Bill Passes House Of Representatives


Shape Care Reform Bill Passes House Of Representatives – 11/07/09

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25 Responses to “Health Care Reform Bill Passes House Of Representatives”

  1. ronster064 says:

    @calculus79, WTF are u talking about?????? looks like you should be the person to take an econ101 class moron. work on that once u finally get your GED. i’ve seen some obtuse comments in my day but never anything as obtuse as yours. for shits sake go get an education. people as uneducated as u should not even be allowed to vote

  2. rebelstang says:

    Now it’s up to the Senate! Vote NO!
    If that fails?
    Luckily We have the 10th Amendment! STATES RIGHTS/Soverinty!
    & a Number of States are Working on bills at the State Leval,
    To Re-asert States Rights!
    Texas Leads the way!
    Ohio & Other States,
    Have Passed or are working on it!
    I Prefor Secession!
    But State Soverinty, is a Excellent Start!
    SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!
    DEO VINDICE!
    LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!

  3. renegadekav says:

    then you pay them since you like them so much.that is bullshit if they wern’t so wreckless in there spending maybe the tax situation would look a modest different.

  4. calculus79 says:

    rationalnow:

    Dude … Bush Sr. lost to Clinton because he HAD to raise taxes to curve INFLATION.

    Why would Bush Sr. raise taxes after pledging to not raise taxes during his campaign? Is he an idiot?

    And when Clinton got into power, he had to raise taxes even more.

    Now, why would politicians raise taxes when they know it WILL cost them their job?

    Nobody likes higher taxes but now and again they are needed to control INFLATION.

    Please take ECON 101.

  5. renegadekav says:

    the failed policies of bush are being continued and inflated by obama even the war strategy to a large extent do you notice a difference?bush was not fiscally conservative and was not conservative sufficient on limited government the wars pale compared to those blunders.not even one year in and the gop has so much ammunition they won’t know what to do with it all come 2010 or 2012.please point out where obama’s policies are successful just one so you look like less of a joke and place up a fight plz.

  6. calculus79 says:

    rationalnow:

    LOWER interest rates => print MORE money
    INCREASE interest rates => print LESS money

    They need to make a law requiring everybody to take and pass ECON 101.

  7. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP:

    “Printing money” is the Glenn Beck term for GOP idiots – it’s the same thing as keeping interest rates LOW.

    Because Bush/GOP kept interest rates and taxes TOO LOW and economic growth stalled, they were “printing money” -> INFLATION.

    INFLATION only occurs if there’s no economic growth. So as long as economic growth occurs, we’ll be fine.

    Once everything is OK again, the gov’t needs to increase taxes and interest rates to make money more expensive -> prevent INFLATION.

    Make sense?

  8. renegadekav says:

    the only dumb ones are the ones blindly following this presidents vaguly outlined or non existent plans.

  9. rationalnow says:

    How the hell does printing money lower interest rates? All it does is cheapen and weaken the value of the dollar which encourages inflation and a weaker economy.

  10. 2010GOP says:

    calculus:

    Let me make sure I know you correctly:

    You’re saying that printing money does not cause inflation????

  11. rationalnow says:

    Bill Clinton is way off! He thinks the reason that Democrats lost their majority in Congress in 1994 was because they didn’t pass healthcare reform. That’s ridiculous, the main reason was because Democrats jacked up taxes and the economy was still tanking until the Republicans re-gained control and made widespread tax cuts which started the economic recovery of the 1990′s.

  12. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP:

    Nice try at defining INFLATION you Glenn Beck wannabe. You clearly have no thought what you are talking about … ROLMAO!

    Obtuse, what’s the mechanism for PRINTING money? Lowering interest rates.

    How do you get banks to start lending money to businesses and consumers? By lowering interest rates.

    Again, re-read my posts about what caused the inflation that lead to the current economic recession … and stop watching Glenn Beck … he’s making you dumber than you really are.

  13. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP: You’re such a Sarah-Palin wannabe!

    Watch the FULL interview and not just Fox News or the GOP sliced version.

    Bill Clinton says clearly everyone shares blame EXCEPT him.

    That Bill is a master politician – he got away with having ORAL sex in the Colorless House from an intern.

    Keep scraping though, maybe you’ll find another way to erase 8 years of Bush/GOP failed policies.

  14. 2010GOP says:

    calculus:

    Dipshit — yes, I know what profit margins are. I’ve managed a region’s P&L, in the Financial sector

    If you exercised your brain, you would realize that Hospitals can write-off many more expenses than Shape Ins — and yet they “still” have a profit margin

    Oh yes, US News & Planet Rpt has it incorrect — Wall Street Journal has it incorrect — All Shape Ins Corps have the excellent accountants & “calculus” who thinks increased revenues causes inflation, has it right ;) gotcha

    LOL!

  15. 2010GOP says:

    calculus:

    Dipshit — yes, it was an election year. Which happened to be the same year his wife was in succession — in which she happens to be a Democrat. Or…was your dumbass not aware of that either?

    Bill Clinton blamed the DEMOCRATS for Fannie/Freddie — get over it

    It’s not real hard to figure out if you open your eyes

    DEMOCRATS hard-pressed banks to make risky loans

    DEMOCRATS opposed legislation for Parameter on Fannie/Freddie

    DEMOCRATS = Economic Crisis

  16. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP: Yes, your links prove everything is right! ROFLMAO

    I have a business. I made $100 profit and incurred $1 expenses. What is my profit margin (PM)?

    You don’t even know how to calculate it do you? But guess what, based on my PM, I’m the most profitable company in the planet!

    Now, if I have a excellent accountant, I can find ways to increase my expenses so I don’t pay higher taxes …

    So again, you are scraping at thin air trying to spread your lies.

  17. 2010GOP says:

    calculus: OMG — that is HYSTERICAL!!

    First of all dummy, I never said Clinton was in power. How obtuse are you exactly? I said Democrats have proscribed Congress for nearly 3 years now — or, was your dumbass not aware of that?

    Secondly, —LMAO— How in the HELL does increased tax revenue cause inflation? You come up w/the dumbest shit

    INFLATION — here are 2 reasons:

    -National Debt / Interest (Obama)
    -Printing Money (Obama)

    You are the LAST person to call someone “Dumb”

  18. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP: Finally watched the Clinton video …

    You’re scraping thin air there buddy!

    Bill Clinton is a politician. What is he really saying? Bill is saying it was not MY flaw.

    It’s also election year obtuse.

    Who does Bill blame? Both DEMS and GOP are to blame for Fannie/Mae collapse.

    Bill does NOT say the current economic recession was due to the Fannie/Mae collapse.

    How do you control bank and consumer behavior? By adjusting tax and interest rates.

    So, keep trying. A+ for effort.

  19. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP: ROLFMAO!!!!

    2010GOP says: Bush/GOP was never in power between 2000-2008 … Bill Clinton was.

    2010GOP says: increased revenue is excellent even if it leads to INFLATION

    Man, you’re dumber than Sarah Palin … ROFLMAO!

  20. 2010GOP says:

    calculus: LOL. You’ve Debunked NOTHING — it is “I” who has provided links, etc.

    A) The GOP has passed shape care reform in 2005 to expand coverage to lower income families. In your childish rant, you’re forgetting we have Medicaid in place, in addition to County/Public clinics & hospitals

    B) The bill will MAKE medical cost rise; what do you reckon happens when tax is added to medical equip

    C) I gave you the link earlier — Read it. Shape Ins has VERY LOW profit margins

  21. calculus79 says:

    2010GOP: More Debunked LIES

    A) Every country has conservatives like GOP – if you get sick, die quickly. France has been number ranked country in terms of shape care for the last 50 years. They have socialized shape care.

    B) Medical cost like everything else will rise with INFLATION (there’s that word again)

    C) 50% of hospitals in 2008 were in the RED, 30% currently in the RED 2009. 50% of hospital profits are from NON-HOSPITAL related revenue.

    D) Over 50% of hospitals are NON-PROFIT

  22. 2010GOP says:

    knowfed:

    A) Many others stating this. President of the Canadian Medical Assoc said their system is “imploding”

    B) It will NOT lower cost of “care”. There is nothing in the bill to remedy that. In fact, the bill adds taxes to medical equipment

    C) Again, why is Insurance the baddie when Hospitals have higher profit margins?

    D) Repub’s have place forwards many reform plans in the past; and today, which focus on “cost”

    E) Premiums for an avg family on this plot is $1250 per month

  23. knowfedirs says:

    2010GOP:
    A) So you’re saying the ENTIRE uk parliament is saying “Don’t do it America”? Don’t do what? ANYTHING?
    B) If it does nothing to control costs, Where’s the alternative solution? There isn’t one. Saying it does “nothing” is an absolute and inaccurate.
    C) Hospitals = Huge Corp = I agree. But, there is parameter caught up. …and it’s going “to rise” anyway
    D) Democrats have issues, yes. So do Republicans, as in ignoring there’s even a problem and doing modest to nothing about it.

  24. 2010GOP says:

    knowfedirs:

    A) Other countries are desperately trying to implement Private Ins back into their systems. UK Parliament: “Don’t do it America”

    B) This bill does absolutely NOTHING to control the cost of medical “care” — in fact, it will rise

    C) Hospitals have a higher profit margin than the Ins industry. Ins pays the Hospitals. Therefore, where force the “cost” issue be?

    D) Democrats make Insurance the baddie simply to make another revenue stream

  25. 2010GOP says:

    phillip:

    First of all, I am talking about the Senate Banking Committee. Republicans factually begged for more Parameter on Fannie/Freddie — Democrats opposed it vehemently. And let’s not forget Democrats were receiving the most in contributions from them.

    Watch the Democrats for yourself. YouTube: “Democrats Fannie Economy”

    Because of the above, yes, Bill Clinton did admit the Democrats were reliable. Hear him for yourself.

    YouTube: “Clinton Fannie Democrats”

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